So, don't you love Rosalie?

More Meyer Plez! wrote:

But alot of ppl say just because she's been through alot doesn't give her the right to act the way she does.

At least she doesn't just let other people make her choices! She does what she thinks is right. She's brave, and not afraid to make controversial choices. And I don't see why what she's been through doesn't justify her actions, in most cases. I mean, can anyone really truly understand that? I know people have been raped...but she was technically murdered. No one here has been through that, so I don't think they can really say that the stuff she's been through doesn't justify the choices she made. She's been through something no one else has. I mean, she has other justifications too. I can list them if you want.

And lulu, why wasn't it the right way to handle things? If Rosalie hadn't done what she did, we don't know what would have happened. Renesmee may have been killed! Bella may have been killed! No one can really make judgments on that either. Why wasn't it a smart decision? The outcome was fine, wasn't it? They both lived? Everyone was happy in the end. How is that bad?

i know Rose did what she had to do, and since every 1 else couldn't see why she would "let Bella get killed" they automatically shrugged it off as a bad choice.

hmm yea

i dislike roaslie

Why?

I think we've established that it's unreasonable to post that you hate someone or love them and not justify. So please, explain your reasoning to me, so that I can refute it.

Because I will refute it. :)

disgracing ballerinas wrote:

Why?

I think we've established that it's unreasonable to post that you hate someone or love them and not justify. So please, explain your reasoning to me, so that I can refute it.

Because I will refute it. :)

As will I.

lol, me to!!!!!!!!!

I actualy LVOED Rose throughtout all of these great book =]

I really do love Rosalie, because she is not a sumple, flat character. She has so many different dimensions, and she is such an INTERESTING character!

Thank you to all who are, well, keeping faith in Rosalie. Many people seem to not understand her and don't want to take the time to do it.

Edit: If there's one thing I can't stand it's incorrect use of punctuation.

And it does take time to understand our dear Rose...she's a complex vampire.

*resists urge to correct grammar*

I love Rose. She's so incredibly complex and if people actually took the time to look beyond the stuff she does and into her reasoning or her personality at all, they'd realize that she's truly an amazing character.

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Okay, since you’re not responding, I’m just compiling all my rants into a single post. Plus, it’ll be fun to read.

*lurks in thread* I'm watching you, haters...watching you.

At least she doesn't just let other people make her choices! She does what she thinks is right. She's brave, and not afraid to make controversial choices. And I don't see why what she's been through doesn't justify her actions, in most cases. I mean, can anyone really truly understand that? I know people have been raped...but she was technically murdered. No one here has been through that, so I don't think they can really say that the stuff she's been through doesn't justify the choices she made. She's been through something no one else has. I mean, she has other justifications too. I can list them if you want.

And lulu, why wasn't it the right way to handle things? If Rosalie hadn't done what she did, we don't know what would have happened. Renesmee may have been killed! Bella may have been killed! No one can really make judgments on that either. Why wasn't it a smart decision? The outcome was fine, wasn't it? They both lived? Everyone was happy in the end. How is that bad?

Honestly, I like her like TWO MILLION TIMES AS MUCH as I like Bella. Because I don't see why everyone likes Bella. She's annoying. Rose, at least, has faults and recognizes them. She's not the 'practically a Mary Sue thinks she's ugly but she's not convinced she's unworthy even though she isn't' perfect girl. She has faults and recognizes them; she has good qualities and recognizes them. She's aware of herself a lot more than Bella and I think it makes her a lot more interesting. I like reading about Bella for two reasons. 1) Its well written and 2) it's full of drama. I like reading about Rosalie because she's interesting in and of herself. No drama required, although she does occasionally enjoy it

first: Do not refer to Renesmee as 'the baby spawn'. WTF is up with that? That is Edward and Bella's child! I don't care if you hate Rose that is ridiculous.

Second: She was not POSSESSIVE. She was PROTECTIVE and she was PROTECTIVE of BELLA, not Renesmee! She was trying to stop the others from doing things to Bella that Bella didn't want done, and making sure that Bella got what she wanted, because BELLA WANTED RENESMEE PROTECTED BEFORE HERSELF and everyone else was ignoring that.

Third: She wasn't trying to like, steal the baby. She just knew how Bella felt because she had wanted a baby for so long and knew she would give up her own life if it meant her child could live (if she could have children). She was on Bella's side of this argument, unlike most of the others. She thought they should listen to what Bella wanted and try to protect the baby in addition to the mother. And also, if you're going to claim that she didn't care about Bella and that's terrible, everyone else wasn't caring about Bella when they tried to kill her kid. They didn't even consider that maybe Bella wouldn't have wanted to live if she knew Renesmee was dead because they had saved her.

And Fourth: WTF???? You think Rosalie, ROSALIE who has never tasted human blood and only killed the MAN WHO RAPED AND MURDERED HER, his friends, and their guards don’t care if Bella lives or dies? SHE SPENT THE FIRST THREE BOOKS TRYING TO CONVINCE BELLA NOT TO GIVE HER LIFE UP!!! OF COURSE SHE CARES!!! THIS IS JUST A RIDICULOUS CLAIM. ENOUGH SAID.

And seriously I <3 all you haters I just think you are completely absolutely and totally wrong. And you can't post hate here without expecting me to refute every claim you make I'm a debater it's what I do.

Twilight4eternaty wrote:
Make... Her... Die.



OH MY F****** GOD.

This is ridiculous.

You don't have any reasons for saying that in your post.
You don't have any explanation of why you want her to die.
You don't have any sort of evidence or reference from/to the books that tells why you want her to die.

I gave reasons. The lovers give reasons, the haters should too.

AND KATHRYN! I'M APPALLED!!
She wasn't valuing the baby's life over Bella's because she's a selfish b**** who doesn't care about anyone else, she was honouring Bella's wishes, which everyone else IGNORED! If Bella wanted to die rather than see her child die the others should have respected that, and Rosalie did! She was HELPING Bella because Bella asked her to! Her motives were ANYTHING but selfish! That was one of the most selfless things she's done!! *Is frustrated beyond words* She was willing to look ridiculous and like a horrible person to her entire family, even to Jacob and the other wolves, in order to give Bella what she wanted. OMC guys. You don't even know how pissed I get when people hate Rosalie. I have to stop now...I could go on forever...

Let me just say that reading Breaking Dawn made me love Rosalie even more. And I'm willing to argue all day in her defence

I agree with Twirls, this has gone beyond ridiculous. Everyone is always like ‘OMC. Rosalie is so horrible, honestly, like she wants the baby for herself and everything.’

That is totally not true and you know it. If you could see past her b****yness then you would see that Rose cares for everyone. Sure she is a b**** and shiz, it’s only because of what happened in her life. She got RAPED by her HUSBAND. Do you know how that must feel to her? How much it hurt her, to be betrayed like that, betrayed by someone she trusted?

Rosalie is probably the most reasonable person in the whole series. Why? Because everything she says has an amazing point to it. She didn’t see why Bella wanted to give up her life to become one of them. And Rose gave her reasons why Bella shouldn’t, and her reasons were good. It’s insanely stupid when people are willing to just be all like ‘She’s so rude, dumb and stupid. Why would anyone like her?’ Have you really begun to understand Rosalie? Have you? Just answer that, have you taken the time (the time you aren’t swooning over Edward Cullen) to really understand where Rosalie is coming from? She knows more things that can happen then pretty much the whole Cullen Clan. Sure, Carlisle knows more, but does he really know more about the hardships of growing up in Rosalie’s society? I don’t think so.

I will fight against everyone (and I know Twirls will too) who thinks Rosalie isn’t fair. She is fair. She knows a lot of things to. You just have to look beyond what Bella and Edward see.

YAY!!!! we got your back Rose!!!

Rose has had hardship in her life ok. And everyone who says she hates Bells.......ITS NOT TRUE!. .... She envy's bella a bit but mostly she trying to protect her from the shit Edward is putting her through.

(dont hate me but im NOT an edward fan) (gasp)(lol)

The only reason you think that shes so horrid is because Edward think himself more than what he is and Bella is scared shitless ok.

She is not a b**** she is just careful to leave her emotions underneath, which is something Bella (not me im already a pro) should learn to do.

I LOVE YOU ROSE!!

i like rose. . . shes so fashion worthy, and defently knows what she wants in life erm. . death. . . but its not death. . . GRRRR

i wish i was her. . . but Emmetts annoying. . .

Bella i soooooo totlly agree!

Edward is stupid
Jakes annoying
And Bella Swan is really an idiot for wanting them both!

Ok. Rosalie lovers, dont hate me but,


I HATE ROSALIE!! If you correctly read the 'Jacob' part of Breaking Dawn you would remember what Jacob said in his mind. I quote:

"Bella's life means nothing to her" Page 198. I couldent find the part where Jacob said in his mind something like 'She just wants the baby for herself' And then Edward nods. I read what I read. I hate Breaking Dawn. I hate Rosalie. I hated her in Twilight, and New Moon. I liked her in Eclipse because she started to be nicer to Bella. But then Breaking Dawn came around. I hate Rosalie. I would read Breaking Dawn again, except I hate it. I might read the 'Jacob part of Breaking Dawn again, just to find the part where Jacob finds out the truth about Rosalie.

moodz..... the rosalie people will defently want to kill u for that..... u might want to start running....

breaking dawn was completly terrible i want to actually find evry copy in the world and make the biggest bomb fire in the world!

then i wanna walk right up to stephnie meyer and tell her to write a better 'effin ending!

but rosalie isnt that bad.... she tryed to keep renesmee away from bella which i coulda ripped her head off for..... but she also helped bella and plotted her desmise quietly which ithink is cool.

but most people just hate rosalie because the way edawrd and jake think about her...... so if u read the story from her point of veiw what would u see diffrently.......... alot of stuff.

but i agree....... I READ WHAT I READ. I HATE BREAKING DAWN.I HATED HER IN TWILIGHT AND NEW MOON. I LIKED HER IN ECLIPSE BECAUSE SHE STARTED BEING NICER TO BELLA. BUT THEN BREAKING DAWN CAME AROUND. I WOULD READ BREAKING DAWN AGAIN, EXCEPT I HATE IT.

Rosalie was fine in Breaking Dawn, honestly.

You have to choke on your post because again, in Breaking Dawn you only saw what Edward and Jacob were thinking.

If you looked at it from Rosalie's point of view, she didn't want Bella to lose Renesmee, she didn't want the baby for herself. I don't see how any of you could think that. Of course she was jealous of Bella. Bella could have a baby and Rose couldn't. It was the one thing Rosalie had always wanted, and Bella hadn't but yet she got it.

Moodz, again, that was Jacob. Only Jacob. Jacob who no one likes Jacob. HIS Point of VIEW. Not Rose's, no one knows what Rose is thinking. Except Edward, even then you have no idea whether that is the actual thought or whether he is just 'editing' it to make Rose look horrible.

And that is not the truth of Rosalie. Do you know her? Does anyone? She's misunderstood, of course no one knows her. Her fiance raped her, yet everyone is all like 'Oh my god. What a b****!' NO SHE IS NOT. How would you act if someone you trusted destroyed you? The same way, I am guessing.

I'm not even going to try to explain to you the depth of her character. You wouldn't understand. And if that sounds patronizing, well, **** you.

I don't hate her, and I have reasons why I don't hate her. I have reasons why she shouldn't be hated, too. If you want to see them, by all means ask. I'm not going to type if you won't read.

Obviously you haven't been reading, because I've already addressed virtually every complaint you've made. But really, if you'd like a debate I'm fine with giving you one.

And I wouldn't want one. She's the best debater ever.
Don't mess with us.

are u talking to me or moodz?

anywayz i find rose nice..... just slightly bitchy

and i still say the ending sucks!

and i cant hate rose cause shes xactly like my best friend
except without the raping, or vampiresim, and shes gothic...

so as u can see rosalie is like my BFF... so dont chase after me with the pitch forks and torches!

and what do you think stephnie meyer was trying to make rosalie look like?
honestly you should ask her about rose before u start takin sides.

oops i forgot to write something so dont include this as spam.....

you all probally think me and moodz are bitches or stupid or both.

we are not..... we just hav a diffrent point of veiw.

no debate plz.

And you should ask her about Rose and if she meant to make her mean.

We are Rosalie. If we didn't take sides no one would be on Jacob's Team or Edward's Team. Frankly I'm on neither. I'm on Rosalie's.